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So, the Bishop of Rochester says that "A Christian vision underlies all that is important about Britain". Your task for today, should you chose to accept it, is to help me make the longest list we can of "things that are important about Britain" with no relation to Christianity.

I'll start.


  • Decent beer
  • Pie and mash
  • The Beetles
  • Chicken Tikka Masala
  • Tying a handkerchief on your head on the beach
  • A nice cup of tea
  • David Attenborough
  • The National Health Service
  • Bass Rock
  • Postage stamps
  • Black taxi cabs
  • Stonehenge
  • Morris Dancing
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posted by [personal profile] djm4 at 02:12pm on 26/11/2007
John Stuart Mill
The weather
Bird tables
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posted by [personal profile] djm4 at 02:19pm on 26/11/2007
Doctor Who
 
posted by [identity profile] ravenevermore.livejournal.com at 02:20pm on 26/11/2007
Street Market Fruit and Veg Stalls.
"PAAAAND-A-PAAAAAAAAND!"
 
posted by [identity profile] thekumquat.livejournal.com at 02:20pm on 26/11/2007
People who say 'Mustn't grumble' and 'Bloody typical!'
Cream teas
Second-hand bookshops
Free range eggs and meat
Trainspotters and birdwatchers
St Pancras Station
Cider
Stephen Fry
[insert list of authors, actors etc here]
Transport strikes and engineering works, but on the whole a crowded public transport system that functions.

The Queen (obviously some relation to Christianity though)
 
posted by [identity profile] ravenevermore.livejournal.com at 02:23pm on 26/11/2007
Cider

OH YES! CIDER!
And out of all Authors... Douglas Adams. he couldn't have come from anywhere else.
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posted by [personal profile] djm4 at 02:24pm on 26/11/2007
Also Shakespeare.
 
posted by [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com at 02:22pm on 26/11/2007
Fish and chips
Freedom of speech
Feeding the ducks in the park
Conkers
Crufts
Barbour jackets
Supporting your local football team
Romping in hayfields
Dr Who
Sticks of seaside rock
Greensleeves
Piccalilly on ham sandwiches

This is starting to sounds a bit like Reasons To Be Cheerful (Part III); no bad thing in my view.

 
posted by [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com at 02:25pm on 26/11/2007
Oh, and it looks like it's the Bishop of Rochester, Michael Nazir-Ali, who's saying it this time, not Rowan 'Stuck in the Dark Ages' Williams.
 
posted by [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com at 02:28pm on 26/11/2007
Oops. COrrected.
 
posted by [identity profile] nik-strychnine.livejournal.com at 02:27pm on 26/11/2007
Airfix model spitfires in 1/72 scale (original sixties blue-plastic version)
 
posted by [identity profile] original-aj.livejournal.com at 02:52pm on 26/11/2007
Oooh, yes. And the matching ME109!

Jumpers for goalposts, Treackle toffee and Parkin on bonfire night. ( though bonfir night itself is arguably a result of Christianity, albeit again probably a highjacking of Samhein )

Matchstick models of the Eiffel Tower.

Men's Sheds.

Greasy spoon cafés.

The bacon roll.
 
posted by [identity profile] nik-strychnine.livejournal.com at 04:23pm on 26/11/2007
That'll be the Messerschmitt Bf 109 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bf-109)- sorry, it's a personal bug-bear...
 
posted by [identity profile] original-aj.livejournal.com at 07:13pm on 26/11/2007
I sit corrected... ;)

In my defence it is 30 years since I built the thing.

I'm sure there was a Fokker Wulf of some type too.
 
posted by [identity profile] fizzyboot.livejournal.com at 07:27pm on 26/11/2007
Actually if we are being pedantic, the term "Me 109" was actually used in German documentation of the period.
 
posted by [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com at 10:53pm on 26/11/2007
I shall add the item
  • grown men arguing about model aeroplanes
    to the list...
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    posted by [identity profile] fizzyboot.livejournal.com at 04:08am on 27/11/2007
    Yay!
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    posted by [personal profile] digitalraven at 06:44pm on 26/11/2007
    Mmm. Isn't it? Wsn't it? Jimmy Hill? Marvelous.
     
    posted by [identity profile] thekumquat.livejournal.com at 02:28pm on 26/11/2007
    Cryptic crosswords.
    Straight-haired people called Curly and midgets called Lofty.
    Pantomimes
    Poll-tax protesters
    Blackadder
    Doc Martens
    The coastline (and BBC's Coast)
    The BBC!
     
    posted by [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com at 02:31pm on 26/11/2007
    Pantomimes

    Oh no they're not!

    (sorry)
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    posted by [personal profile] zotz at 05:05pm on 26/11/2007
    Oh no you aren't!
     
    posted by [identity profile] valkyriekaren.livejournal.com at 10:22am on 27/11/2007
    He's behind you!
     
    posted by [identity profile] mistdog.livejournal.com at 02:29pm on 26/11/2007

    • Celebrations at the winter solstice and start of Spring, which were merely adopted by the christans when they arrived

    • Democracy

    • The abolition of slavery (in direct opposition to the old testament)

    • Equal rights for women (in direct opposition to Saint Paul)

    • The finance industry

    • The rail network

    • Post offices


    Edited Date: 2007-11-26 02:30 pm (UTC)
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    posted by [personal profile] henry_the_cow at 10:40pm on 26/11/2007
    I believe the abolition of slavery was campaigned for by many christians. The same holds for several other progressive causes over the centuries. The new testament explicitly overrules many of the ideas in the old testament, replacing a god of vengeance with a god of mercy.

    Personally I don't believe in any god, but christianity has clearly had many positive effects on the world (as well as many negative ones).
     
    posted by [identity profile] original-aj.livejournal.com at 02:32pm on 26/11/2007
    Surprised no one has said "Freedom of religion"

    The ability to make fun of ourselves.

    But the beer is the big one!
     
    posted by [identity profile] cavalorn.livejournal.com at 02:34pm on 26/11/2007
    Prince Charles
     
    posted by [identity profile] ellemir.livejournal.com at 02:35pm on 26/11/2007
    Avebury.
    Sitting on stony beaches in the rain at the height of the British Summer.
    The Long Man of Wilmington, the White Horse of Uffington etc.
    Warming the pot before another nice cup of tea, you can never have enough tea.
    Cucumber sandwiches
    Polite discussions on whether it is a matter of life or death to put milk in first when making that nice cup of tea.
    Chatting to neighbours over the garden fence- which is a dying art I am proud to be continuing. Remember any salacious piece of gossip must be prefaced by the words "I have never been one to gossip but..."
     
    posted by [identity profile] ellemir.livejournal.com at 02:38pm on 26/11/2007
    A pint of winkles, which I understand warms the cockles of yer heart.
    Tiddlywinks
    And all other traditional things that lay themselves open to supplying material for making fun of ourselves.
     
    posted by [identity profile] lolliepopp.livejournal.com at 03:02pm on 26/11/2007
    James Bond
    Wallace & Gromit
    Crumpets
    Marmite
    HP Sauce
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    The Chap

     
    posted by [identity profile] ergotia.livejournal.com at 03:43pm on 26/11/2007
    Greasy spoon cafes where you can get a full English Breakfast with working man tea!
     
    posted by [identity profile] ergotia.livejournal.com at 03:45pm on 26/11/2007
    The welfare state.
     
    posted by [identity profile] gingiber.livejournal.com at 03:54pm on 26/11/2007
    Ribena
    Veganism
    The humanist society
    Pooh sticks
    Roobarb and Custard and all the small films output
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    posted by [identity profile] feorag.livejournal.com at 04:11pm on 26/11/2007
    Marks and Spencer, Burton's, Tesco and most other high street retailers!
     
    posted by [identity profile] mister-ed.livejournal.com at 06:26pm on 26/11/2007
    Virgin Sacrifice!!
     
    posted by [identity profile] spacelem.livejournal.com at 06:30pm on 26/11/2007
    People bravely killing themselves in the name of science.
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    posted by [personal profile] digitalraven at 06:48pm on 26/11/2007
    Madmen in sheds building jet-powered vacuum cleaners.
     
    posted by [identity profile] xquiq.livejournal.com at 07:00pm on 26/11/2007
    The Edinburgh Festival (much as it occasionally irritates)
    Various sports involving men doing pointless things with balls
    English muffins
    Scotch whisky
    Viking festivals
    The Beatles
    British comedy
    Carry on movies
    Kitchen sink dramas
    Parkas
    Punk
    The Post Office
    The Flying Scotsman
    The Forth Rail Bridge
    Tunnock's Tea Cakes

     
    posted by [identity profile] fizzyboot.livejournal.com at 07:47pm on 26/11/2007
    The English language
    The British countryside
    North Sea oil
    power stations
    industry
    farming
     
    posted by [identity profile] random-redhead.livejournal.com at 08:05pm on 26/11/2007
    *dressing up to do things (goths on the beach/ DDR)
    *bagpipes
    *Tablet
    *Irn Bru
    *Peter O'Toole
    *Trevor Baylis
    *Arthurian legend
    *Hogmanay
    *John Peel
    *sausages
    *macaroni pie
    *tattie scone rolls
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    posted by [personal profile] barakta at 09:04pm on 26/11/2007
    Red phone boxes
    Red letterboxes
    British Telecom
    Royal Snail
    GCSE
    A-Level
     
    posted by [identity profile] zbyszek.livejournal.com at 09:59pm on 26/11/2007

    • Forming an orderly queue
    • Test cricket
    • The Shipping Forecast
     
    posted by [identity profile] thewomanmeg.livejournal.com at 09:44am on 27/11/2007
    Going to the beach in gale force winds because "we're on holiday"

    Thermos flasks

    Absence of a strong pro-life lobby

    Jane Austen

    Wellington boots
     
    posted by [identity profile] mossymosquito.livejournal.com at 08:16pm on 28/11/2007
    A sense of perspective.
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    posted by [personal profile] zotz at 10:48am on 01/12/2007
    I was talking to Lara and Seth last night, and :-

    The Ordnance Survey.

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