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Not a word in the sky

posted by [personal profile] purplerabbits at 09:20pm on 15/02/2007
Word enthusiasts, please help me!

Is there such a word as ragments? A crossword solver suggested it to me and it fits the clue quite well but I can't find a definition even in my shorter oxford. Alternatively, suggest a solution to "Old catalogues brought up the street to the Steptoes" in R_G_E_T_

Also is there a famous craftsman in _H_M_S _H_R_T_N? I thought of Thomas someone? Charlton? Except Google cannot help me.

UPDATE: It *was* ragments - and I still don't know what it means. Mind you this setter also uses words like 'epopee', and 'riggald' - which is a great word...
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posted by [identity profile] ellemir.livejournal.com at 09:28pm on 15/02/2007
Sheraton?
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posted by [identity profile] purplerabbits.livejournal.com at 09:31pm on 15/02/2007
Doh! Thankyou!
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posted by [identity profile] selectnone.livejournal.com at 10:33pm on 15/02/2007
Heh, I thought "Shamus Churnton", whoever that may be!
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posted by [identity profile] cheekbones3.livejournal.com at 10:52pm on 15/02/2007
Ragments fits cryptically (st backwards to ragmen), but is not in any dictionary I own.
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posted by [identity profile] gleisdreieck.livejournal.com at 03:53pm on 16/02/2007
According to the OED, it is an old Scots word meaning "a long discourse, rhapsody, rigmarole". The most recent example is from 1585, which I believe is a little bit before you moved up here, so you are forgiven for not knowing the word (I use it three or four times a day):

1585 POLWART Flyting w. Montgomerie 142, I laugh to see the bluiter Glor in thy ragments, rash to raill.
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posted by (anonymous) at 11:57am on 21/02/2007
According to Chambers Dictionary, it's an obsolete term for either an old catalogue (so it fits the clue) or a document with pendent seals. I once read that Chambers is some kind of standard amongst crossword compilers.

In case you're wondering who I am, I'm an old friend and former colleague of ciphergoth and henry_the_cow. I met you once in the late 90s at your flat - I'm the one who had a big clearout and gave ciphergoth an old civil defence greatcoat I couldn't get into anymore.
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